A&A Ep. 81
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Karrie: [00:00:00] Welcome to Awakened and Alive After 40.
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Karrie: and Karrie, two friends and coaches who are passionate about sharing our knowledge and insights on these two powerful self awareness systems to help you step outside the box and into a life that is true to who you really are.
Dominique: We're so grateful to have you here. Let's jump into today's episode. Hello, and welcome back to the show. If this is your first time joining us a great big welcome and thank you for clicking on this episode. This is Dominique and Karrie from the Awakened and Alive After 40 podcast. In today's episode, we're going to talk a little bit more about how Human Design and the [00:01:00] Enneagram are a powerful combo for personal growth and greater self awareness. I think this is going to be a fun topic because as you and I have been working together, Karrie, there's been so many times where you were telling me something about the Enneagram and it was just this light bulb moment for me. I know you've mentioned the same thing when I share about Human Design. So in this episode, we're just gonna share a little bit more about our thoughts of what we've seen within our own personal lives and working with other individuals with the profound impact that these two systems can have on someone's life. I know for me, both systems have really been anchors for me and throughout my own personal growth, something that I really lean into just for better self knowledge.
Karrie: I know we've touched on this, in some previous episodes, but we wanted to dedicate a whole episode to us talking about how [00:02:00] in our opinion, and for our own lives, and like Dominique mentioned in our work with our clients, these two systems can give. even more of an impact when used together because each system brings such different information with it that is important for our own self awareness. So from the Enneagram perspective, it gives us a super clear picture of our ego structure or what we might consider our conditioned personality. It can really be enlightening to start seeing that piece of ourselves. In addition to that, our pattern reactions and behaviors to a variety of situations and alternative paths we can take to those conditioned behaviors that we just do when we're on autopilot. Whereas Human Design, Dominique will explain a little bit more about what it shows us, which is sort of the opposite of the Enneagram because the Enneagram is showing us all these conditioned parts of our ego and [00:03:00] personality.
Dominique: Yeah, and that's what I absolutely love so much when we look at these two systems, because with Human Design, it shows you your essence. It is what makes you uniquely different from anyone else in this world. When you're looking at your body graph, it's almost like a circuit board, if you will. And it's a circuit board of your personal energy, and by understanding your body graph, then you better understand how to use your energy wisely and how it interacts with the world itself. Everything is energy around us. There's energy vibration, and we're energetic beings. So from that scientific standpoint, that's where Human Design is really powerful because this is what you were born with. This is the energy that you came with into this world. It will be yours your entire life. So this is your [00:04:00] authenticity, your essence compared to what you just mentioned, Karrie, that conditioning, that ego structure. I know when you've worked with me on my own Enneagram type, when we did a typing session, what I found fascinating is because I've done so much of my own inner work to shed conditioning, I had to kind of answer some of the questions with the mindset of what was it like for me in the past, because I've done so much of that work. Now I feel very different, but I know that your Enneagram type doesn't ever change. Is that correct?
Karrie: Right.
Dominique: It's always the same.
Karrie: Yeah, because it is about a core set of motivations that are instilled in us in that personality, ego development stage of birth to age about seven. And so it is really solidified. That's not to say that our decision making can't change, our behaviors [00:05:00] can't change, but the thing that's driving us at a subconscious level that was instilled in there by how we were conditioned as children doesn't change. We can become more aware of it, we can choose not to follow it, but that's still there. What you just said made me think of this idea that if you just learn about yourself through the lens of the Enneagram, that's giving you a ton of information, it's super valuable. But once you notice and understand your ego structure and your personality and you're like, who am I under this? If you don't have an idea of your Human Design, that can be really disorienting because your Human Design, like you said, is your essence, and that's who you are under all of this conditioning, which is our Enneagram. So it's like understanding both is so powerful and so informative. Understanding just one is amazing too, like if it's a busy season of life and one [00:06:00] system doesn't resonate or it feels overwhelming, that's amazing. But in our opinion, putting the two systems together and layering them on top of each other gives incredibly important and life changing insight.
Dominique: Yeah, and from my view of it all, when I talk about the inner work that I've done throughout my lifetime, and I've mentioned in past episodes, I've shared a little bit about the trauma that I worked through healing. For myself, I had to go through the process of understanding this is why I am the way I am, but this is not who I am at the core. So let me work on writing a new story, shedding these layers of conditioned beliefs, behaviors that I collected in order to feel loved, to feel safe, to belong. And every single one of us has conditioning. We're never going to be rid of it. That is just human nature and the part of us that is [00:07:00] constantly wanting to connect and belong with others. But once I got to that level of understanding why I did the things I did or thought the way I thought, then there's greater choice. I had choice then in correcting the things that were not serving me any longer. And that's what I think is so beautiful about these systems is that the awareness brings about greater choice in your life. You're not then just stuck on autopilot and living according to what society is telling you is worthy or success or happiness. You get to decide for yourself what that means. Once I became clear on it, then it was more of like, okay, so I know I'm not all this. I don't feel that. I feel so much more. How do I identify this? How do I get to know this new part of me? It wasn't a new part. It was getting back to my truth, getting back to my [00:08:00] authenticity that I was so disconnected from. Human Design is what brought me into that after I did the nervous system regulation, after I processed the trauma that I had pushed aside for so long, then I got into Human Design and started to uncover and connect more deeply to the truth of who I am, that authentic side. That's what I loved so much seeing that. Even the Enneagram I did early on as well, just got to know myself as a Type 9 and the knowledge awareness that it brought to me was life changing 100%.
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Karrie: And just some of the things that the Enneagram can help anyone out there who's interested understand better about themselves, this is just a little bit of a very complicated system, but like I've mentioned, it can show our core motivations, which includes our core fear and core desire. It shows us traits we may display during times of stress, which is super helpful to recognize in ourselves and to be able to catch it and understand maybe why it's happening and pinpoint that stress that's happening in our life. Plus it shows us the healthier path, the growth path, that we can choose to go on if we are feeling stressed or out of alignment. It shows us our center of intelligence, which is either a head type, a heart type, or a body type, which is super impactful to understand that about yourself. It shows us how we may manipulate others, how we [00:10:00] handle conflict, how we are conditioned to try to get our needs met in life. All these things are so powerful in understanding, like Dominique said, the sort of autopilot way we tend to live. When we start noticing these patterns in ourselves and notice the autopilot behaviors, then we can decide in moment to moment, if we want to continue down the path of conditioned behaviors or make a different choice.
Dominique: Mm hmm. Yeah. And these systems by no means are another way to label yourself or to put yourself into another box. It's the complete opposite. These open up so much freedom because you get to decide. You get to choose how you want to behave, how you want to respond. With Human Design, as I mentioned, of course, it's that energetic blueprint. But it also ,similar to the Enneagram, it [00:11:00] reveals a lot of potential areas of how you might be holding onto conditioning, how to work through it as well. It gives you guidance on how to move through conditioning, how to move through a lot of the limitations that we've experienced in our lives. It also reveals specific themes that come up for us sometimes repeatedly in life, because this is a theme that we're meant to become wise in. We're here on this earth in order to learn from these specific themes. For me, I've identified what those themes are that were repeatedly coming up for me. And instead of feeling like a victim, I now feel like, I get to become wiser about this and I get to grow through this and create more enriching relationships through this or just a life that feels more easeful the more I understand about my true nature. Human Design, one of my favorite parts was [00:12:00] that it helped me understand my inner compass, my intuition, because we don't all have that gut feeling. There's a few other intuitive knowing ways that we have. For me, I have one of the more unique ways of making aligned decisions through that intuitive knowing. I was confused most of my life about why it just didn't work for me when I followed what everybody else would say or do. Now it's been absolutely amazing, and I know you've witnessed some of my periods of like light bulb moments. It's been something that I cherish greatly now through better understanding my unique way of making decisions. We all have a unique way, and that's why these are not boxes to put yourself into. It is giving you freedom in many ways.
Karrie: That is really well said because the learning about your intuition piece [00:13:00] of Human Design is one of the more impactful pieces for myself as well because it's so vague to just say, trust your gut. And like you said, that's not how we're all supposed to make decisions. And most of us have learned to make decisions just through mental processing, which also is not the most efficient way for us to be doing it. So learning about the. authority, your own authority, which is your intuitive knowing in Human Design is super impactful. And I just wanted to say one quick thing about the Enneagram because by no means do I think the Enneagram is 100 percent conditioning. I think it is a lot of conditioning, but we can never know for sure what is innate and what is conditioned within us, so there are a lot of aspects. And when layered with Human Design, a lot of them can make a lot more sense, but aspects of our Enneagram type that could also be innate, but it's those aspects that really line up with what our Human Design also shows us. So it's [00:14:00] really interesting when looking at the complete picture of both systems about yourself to see, it's no wonder that I'm so detail oriented. It's not just because I was conditioned as a Enneagram type one. It's because I have this gate or this channel that has to do with focusing in on details and organizing.
Dominique: Yeah, exactly. And yeah, thank you for bringing that up because that's another thing with Human Design. It shows you where your unique strengths and gifts are. And for you, Karrie, which I am so grateful for ' cause it helps me out a lot with our own organization together. But you are just gifted in this type of follow through and being able to see the details and to even explain the details, but in very easy to understand language, which I greatly appreciate. That, like you mentioned for the Enneagram type, that could be looked at as quote unquote, a problem. But through Human [00:15:00] Design, this is one of the things you are gifted at and that you're here to share with others. When we look at that layering between the two systems, I just get so excited to see these little aha moments pop up within myself, the more I learn about the Enneagram, but also how it has helped just guide me. It's been a little bit of like a lamp post to guide me as I've been working toward better understanding myself. For me, my belief is that we all come into the world as pure love. Oftentimes, unfortunately, we lose that connection as we make our way through life. My purpose that I feel deeply is to get back to that source and center of love. These two systems have helped me to do so in a way that has been very much a challenge, and I believe we're not here to suffer, we're here to struggle. And it's through the struggles [00:16:00] that we grow. These two systems have offered me, and I've seen in many other people, that opportunity, that support to more gracefully make way through the struggle and to, at the same time, become more connected to that source of love that we all are already connected to. It's not something you have to work for. It's something that we just have to learn how to recognize again.
Karrie: Thank you for listening to this episode. Your support is so appreciated.
Dominique: If you'd like to have a question answered about your Human Design or Enneagram type in a future episode, you can submit it through the link in the show notes. We'd love to hear from [00:17:00] you.
